tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post2255558826186519863..comments2024-03-07T00:40:45.585-08:00Comments on Trout Clan Campfire: murph & freeacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10278932450332333778noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-5607955066567123092012-12-15T17:27:17.422-08:002012-12-15T17:27:17.422-08:00HEY THERE!
~ Its Lucretia-- I know, long time no...HEY THERE! <br /><br />~ Its Lucretia-- I know, long time no comment. I think one reason I prefer Livejournal to Blogger is that I don't have to deal with reading everyone's else comments along with any follow up to my own comments when my time is scrunched. And I totally fell behind in checking your blog somewhere in this last busy period.<br /><br />Just wanted to say-- I LOVE 'Sons of Anarchy' as well. I don't think all the characters are sociopaths-- the weird part is how many of them are NOT. But certainly many are deeply flawed and/or very deeply entrenched in a way of life that requires going along with the group, even when the group is demanding crazy or violent behavior. <br /><br />I think my fascination with it is that I can see groups like this popping up as we face Decline. As a matter of fact, I was just beginning research into outlaw biker gangs (sorry, CLUBS!) when this show came on the air and gave my studies an extra, fictional, charge. <br /><br />I have actually come to know a little about the outlaw bikers of Oregon, the Gypsy Jokers. I even know a few members and have had some very interesting conversations-- especially using the show as a launching point. Things are naturally not as chaotic and dire as the fictional show portrays, but there are little truths within that are planted throughout, which is why BIKERS are just as obsessive as viewers as any of us 'civilians'. <br /><br />The reason I can see the appeal of such a group (as opposed to the more limited and exploitative urban street gang) is that the Outlaw Biker social rules mean not only absolute loyalty to the group-- but also require, for instance, being GOOD neighbors and forging relationships with civilians that are mutually beneficial. There is great protection to be found in such a group if you are living in dangerous times. I think versions of this will emerge as petroleum gets more expensive (perhaps on horses instead of motorcycles?) <br /><br />And yes, I think you hit it on the target when you said that when the very institutions of decency that uphold society FAIL us, more of us may begin to evaluate what we thought of as decent very differently.<br /><br />... "interesting times" indeed!Lucretia Hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06038287234542460969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-52475888953379128582012-09-12T23:39:57.832-07:002012-09-12T23:39:57.832-07:00True or not true? Got me. But we know who would ...True or not true? Got me. But we know who would like to manipulate the weather to their advantage, because they said they intend to do just that...<br /><br />http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4280188,00.htmlrockpickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15705284555868707898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-81906031823383745282012-09-12T14:16:17.342-07:002012-09-12T14:16:17.342-07:00SATS
You are right Freeacre. We as a species like...SATS<br /><br />You are right Freeacre. We as a species like to consume so long as we are kept blissfully unaware of what is going on at the other end of the digestive tract. All that stuff about Atlantis reappearing in plastic bottles and so on. We are all turning oil into carbon dioxide and it is not helping. I wish I knew how we could reduce it. We should all keep in mind however that CO2 is one of the milder effect greenhouse gasses. That is not meant as a sideways swipe at HSW. In a list of possible greenhouse gasses CO2 is not up there with the really big boys although it is argued that mildness in effect is overcompensated for by quantity. I think the world has been sold a bill of goods so far as CO2 is concerned. I think the intent was that we unquestioningly accepted the assumption and went ahead into carbon trading, until the apple cart was upset in Copenhagen. We really should be more concerned by the release of methane from the thawing tundra. Whether this has been triggered by CO2 is a moot point. Even with the vast amount of CO2 we are pouring out, I don't think there is enough calorific value in its heat storing capacity to account for all that is claimed of it. There is something else going on as well, like for example the underwater volcanoes you speak of. No matter how much we scream and shout about it, mankind is in the age of oil and sadly, that isn't going to change until it changes us. <br /><br />So far as climate is concerned, in fairly recent geological time we have had two ice ages that were nothing to do with us and the world got better. There were times when vast swaths of the earth were covered in volcanic ash. Maybe that is what did it for the dinosaurs, I don't know, but the world gradually recovered. It is important that scientists continue to monitor global changes but they also should have the ability to distinguish genuine triggers from normal short term cycling effects or baseline jitter. An analogy of what I mean by this is to compare the earth to the human body. Ask anybody what normal body temperature is and they will probably tell you it is 98.6°F. However for the majority of us who sleep at night and are active during the day, the body temperature can and usually does vary by +/- 0.9°F during any 24 hour cycle. Usually it is lowest 97.7°F at about 4.30 hr in the morning and 99.5°F at 1900 hr in the evening. Just like the body the earth has its normal cycles too but there are more interacting effects and they tend to be a bit more complicated.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_temperature<br /><br />Radioactive contamination is a new worrying phenomenon and that is definitely down to us. Two of Belgium's five nuclear reactors are to be decommissioned by 2015 and the other three will not be replaced when their projected lifetime runs out. We will probably buy electricity in from Germany or Uncle Vlad and pass the buck and the toxic waste somewhere else, just so long as we don't have to be aware of it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-17264963172598920092012-09-12T11:16:59.925-07:002012-09-12T11:16:59.925-07:00I guess I'd be in the group that knows that th...I guess I'd be in the group that knows that they don't know, but I am somewhat more concerned with the quality of the sea water. I think the Sun and underwater volcanoes are warming up the oceans as well as greenhouse gases. And the cooling info is compelling, too. But, whatever... the radioactive wastes, plastic, and god-forsaken chemicals that we dump into it are killing the corals, plankton, and fish. Since the world is significantly dependent on the food generated from the seas, this problem is huge. Combined with the devastating pollution of the air, clearing of the forests, and ruining the topsoil and aqua-firs - well, I don't know what to say. We need to be united in our efforts to save life on Earth, and not fight amongst ourselves to the point of paralyzing each other.freeacrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-83122526372340386922012-09-12T10:32:28.781-07:002012-09-12T10:32:28.781-07:00ookVot1091SATS
Yes, truth is an elusive beast. So...ookVot1091SATS<br /><br />Yes, truth is an elusive beast. Sometimes it is harder to find the truth than find the lady. When we think we know where it is, it turns out to be somewhere else. For me, Gd's competency cycle expresses it better than I could have. Picking this subject up is like trying to grab hold of a jelly but let's have a go. Sometimes the truth is a matter of simple alternatives. Did William Tell shoot an apple off his sons head using a bow and arrow? Well he did or he didn't and the truth is one of these. I don't know which it is and I don't have an opinion about it. The absolute truth has no alternatives and is absolutely what happened or what is. Most of the time we don't have enough information to determine the absolute truth but can make an informed opinion as a halfway house to determining the truth. Is it true that representative democracy the best way of organising society. Some people accept that this is true because representatives can be chosen and are accountable to those that choose them to act in their best interests. For others it is not true because they believe that once in office, representatives can be influenced by personal gain, not to act in the best interests of the represented. Only one of these alternatives is absolutely true. If it is not true then a different system must be shown to be better. Is it true that the NWO Globalist agenda is correct thinking? Again it is or it isn't or we have to modify the question to ask correct thinking for whom. Then we can have an option where both answers are true, the pro argument for one group and the anti argument for another. The answer we give to this can be influenced by our personal prejudices or our particular world view. Sometimes we find ourselves in the middle of Gd's competency cycle where we don't have enough information to determine the absolute truth and then we resort to language constructs such as “ Based on the balance of probabilities, the likelihood is that....”. For instance, did a Boeing 757 crash through the Pentagon walls on 9/11? Most people say no, because the hole in the wall was too small; there was no debris on the lawn when we should have expected a tailplane at least; the independent camera footage was confiscated and denied to the public and especialy after Rummy had a mental break and admitted that the Pennsylvania plane had been shot down. There is however conflicting evidence and according to Joel Van der Rijden there is no alternative to a Boeing 757 crashing into the Pentagon. <br /><br />https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/disinformation/911/pentahole_dimensions_est.htm<br /><br />What is true? There can only be one truth and that is why I previously said that how you interpret the available information until such times that the absolute truth can be determined depends on your own particular prejudices and your own world view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-26271605973546487832012-09-12T02:40:29.698-07:002012-09-12T02:40:29.698-07:00HSW you seem to think it is air temperature meltin...HSW you seem to think it is air temperature melting ice in the Arctic, I may be wrong, maybe you still think Co2 "warms the air which warms the ocean" either way this graphic of the weekly sea surface temperature anomaly should illustrate my point <br /><br /><a href="http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/wksst/5.gif" rel="nofollow">Global weekly sea surface temperature anomaly map</a><br /><br />notice where all the warm anomalies are? do you think ocean circulations could possibly have something to do with it, or is all the Co2 sat over the NH congregating around the Arctic?<br /><br />enquiring minds want to know ;) Gd <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-28671877949427338282012-09-12T02:31:13.474-07:002012-09-12T02:31:13.474-07:00HSW you seem to think atmospheric "heat"...HSW you seem to think atmospheric "heat" is transferred to the oceans, and not the other way around, I suggest you get a handle on heat capacity of air compared to water.<br /><br /><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/atmosphere-vs-ocean-heat-capacity.jpg" rel="nofollow">This simple graphic may help illustrate my point</a> GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-28195038337314763742012-09-12T01:55:35.729-07:002012-09-12T01:55:35.729-07:00HSW so you dispute the most recent NASA findings b...HSW so you dispute the most recent NASA findings by quoting out of date skeptical science articles? <br /><br />Re truth: I repeat the first part of the sentence from which the latter part was pounce on "Keep searching for the truth and it will hit you upside the head" I should have said eventually hit you upside the head. <br /><br />we take in evidence from as many sources as possible, eventually we can disregard some of it, even most of it, when more evidence comes in, it takes time, but eventually lots of possibilities get narrowed down to the most likely; as in the "competence cycle" we start off unconsciously incompetent (we don't know that we don't know) we find a new line of evidence and we become consciously incompetent (we know that we don't know) with more research and practice we become consciously competent (we know that we know, but we are still unaccustomed to the evidence/practice) eventually with more research and practice we become unconsciously competent (we just know without thinking about it). <br /><br />everyone is at a different stage in the competency cycle, on myriad subjects, e.g. a conversation between someone who spent a lifetime researching UFO's talking to someone who has never seen any evidence for such, who has only seen derogatory statements about UFO researchers will not be a productive conversation, unless both parties recognise the others stage in the competence cycle and make allowances for such. <br /><br />in this thread I feel I am trying to make allowances, I feel Murph and SATS also made some allowances, others don't even appear to recognise their lack of competence. Diplomatic? ;¬) <br /><br />Gd. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-23367780815199935622012-09-12T00:28:52.558-07:002012-09-12T00:28:52.558-07:00And regarding Antarctica ice:
http://www.skeptica...And regarding Antarctica ice:<br /><br />http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm<br /><br />Is Antarctica losing or gaining ice?<br /><br />....when it comes to Antarctic ice, sea ice is not the most important thing to measure. In Antarctica, the most important ice mass is the land ice sitting on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the East Antarctic Ice Sheet....<br /><br />....multiple different types of measurement techniques (explained here) all show the same thing, Antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly....Hotspringswizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215356654367335612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-10581916583647100202012-09-11T19:20:23.429-07:002012-09-11T19:20:23.429-07:00Chriss Hedges was interviewed in the later segment...Chriss Hedges was interviewed in the later segment of today's Democracy Now show ( aired 9-11 ) on Free Speech TV. In it he discussed the very serious issue of the 40% Artic Sea ice lost in recent decades, as well as various points on humanities race to the bottom regarding its onslaught on world resources and ecosystems. <br /><br /> Hotspringswizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215356654367335612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-59654207612620309712012-09-11T14:34:17.331-07:002012-09-11T14:34:17.331-07:00GD, the gas CO2 acts as a warming blanket across t...GD, the gas CO2 acts as a warming blanket across the the whole surface of the earth, holding in additional heat, causing the atmosphere to be warmer, which has been clearly shown in the records, and this gargantuan amounts of atmospheric heat is transfered into the oceans, and your comparing that gigantic process to a Blowdryer's affect on a bath tub?<br /><br />On another subject, on the Weather Channel tonight at 7PM, and tomorrow at the same time there is a two part special discussing the drastic loss of Arctic ice extent and volume. <br /><br />SATS, Regarding people's world views/opinions, all things are not equal and all POV's do not hold the same merit. But on the other hand if one holds the view that there is no way to sensibly discern the truth like described this way " there is nothing to know ", or as in equalizing phrases like " we all cherry pick the data ", then the implication is that one person's POV is no more valid than the next. And if the later is actually true, then there is no sense trying to figure out anything, because it doesn't make any differance, it doesn't matter what you think as compared to another peron because everything one thinks is accurate, and true. <br /><br />So if the US PTB say the twin towers fell because of fire, that makes just as much sense, is just as valid as those who say they were taken down by controlled demolitions. Maybe in an Alice In Wonderland world both could be true at the same time. Is that what we are living in? Seeing the POV of some folks, you would think so.<br /><br />Now Sats the above I cite not as some disparragement of you, but only to point out that if we are here trying to figure things out and discuss the merits of various points, there has to be the underlying premis that all things are not equal when it comes to desribing the truth of things. <br /><br />Now one could also diverge into all the myriad POV's on just what is the nature of existance, philosphic/metaphysical musings along with all of the implied directions that can lead, but if that leaves you saying/interpreting that all things are equal, then that would make it true that there would be no point whatsoever to trying to discern or dicuss the merits of any points of view. The fact is, people discuss/argue over POV's clearly because the people involved figure all things are not equal.<br /><br /><br /><br />Hotspringswizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215356654367335612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-63951143918366164372012-09-11T02:00:46.133-07:002012-09-11T02:00:46.133-07:00SATS
Hmm! HSW, GD everyone including me, in our e...SATS<br /><br />Hmm! HSW, GD everyone including me, in our effort to discover the “truth” we all, to some extent or other, cherry pick the information which reinforces our own prejudices and world view. The alternative is to simply give up and believe nothing or sit back and wait for God to put the fix in. As Murph says (paraphrased), the method of discovering the actuality of the truth is no easy matter. I won't say unique but one very rare aspect of this blog is that contributors here recognise this and understand that someone else might be looking at a different facet of the same picture or seeing it from a different perspective. We can respect one anothers views whilst recognising that our own truth might not be completely correct. We can accommodate others views without the need to slag anyone off and maybe use anothers point of view to form a more complete or whole picture, whilst maintaining our own stance. Sometimes we think another has just got it completely wrong. There have been occasions in my life, not too many, where I have been shown that what I understood to be true was in fact complete bollox and I have changed my understanding of something. Fortunately these moments have become fewer as I have got older. <br /> <br />Was that diplomatic or what? I do think that this is largely true though. <br /><br />Randy, the expression you were striving for was “Shit Bag Rats”. This adds a greater depth of feeling especially if it is delivered with conviction. :-) :-)<br /><br />Found the photos of the bikes and they are pretty cool. Because the load is positioned between the wheels the bike will feel lighter to ride than if the load was say, hung in a basket from the handlebars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-30066455798673522902012-09-11T01:35:33.425-07:002012-09-11T01:35:33.425-07:00HSW was the 2012 US summer hotter than the 1930s, ...HSW was the 2012 US summer hotter than the 1930s, I mean before they <a href="http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/1998changesannotated.gif?w=750&h=533&h=533" rel="nofollow">adjusted history</a><br /><br />enquiring mind want to know ;) GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-51905768432955598882012-09-11T01:04:25.539-07:002012-09-11T01:04:25.539-07:00Murph: the guys at NASA did their jon then, they t...Murph: the guys at NASA did their jon then, they took actual satellite measurements showing the Antarctic gained mass "Mass Balance of the Antarctic Ice Sheet 1992-2008 from ERS and ICESat: Gains exceed losses" and tried to explain how their useless models still work in the face of that contradicting empirical evidence, and failed it seems, but clearly did manage to muddy the water, which I think was the whole point of the video ;)<br /><br />try <a href="http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/august-2012-sea-surface-temperature-sst-anomaly-update/>this post on SST anomaly update</a> from Bob Tisdale. I'll cut to the conundrum: "The Sea Surface Temperature anomalies of the East Pacific Ocean, or approximately 33% of the surface area of the global oceans, have decreased slightly since 1982 based on the linear trend. And between upward shifts, the Sea Surface Temperature anomalies for the rest of the world (67% of the global ocean surface area) remain relatively flat. As discussed in my book, anthropogenic forcings are said to be responsible for most of the rise in global surface temperatures over this period, but the Sea Surface Temperature anomaly graphs of those two areas prompt a two-part question: Since 1982, what anthropogenic global warming processes would overlook the Sea Surface Temperatures of 33% of the global oceans and have an impact on the other 67% but only during the months of the significant El Niño events of 1986/87/88, 1997/98 and 2009/10?"<br /><br />Simply put: Ocean cycles dominate the global temp/climate. Co2 cannot effect ocean heat content. (e.g. try heating a bath of water with a hair dryer compared to an IR cooking stove) These natural cycles are correlated to the Sun/planetary cycles see [2] for the correlations. look at the cycle anomalies graph. <br /><br />HSW whatever, I won't waste my time or yours responding to that, you see what you want to see, how come Murph got my gist. <br /><br />[2]http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/solarcurrent.pdf<br /><br />GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-51459742837466743022012-09-10T23:55:58.107-07:002012-09-10T23:55:58.107-07:00GD, Regarding your Jay Zwally/Nasa video, to bad y...GD, Regarding your Jay Zwally/Nasa video, to bad your go to site Real Science is dumping on the guy as offering up miss info about climate change issues. Can't believe that guy now can I :-)<br /><br />http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/nasas-jay-zwally-does-the-dirty-cherry-picking-deed/<br /><br />Lets see, an Antarctica map from 6000 years ago, thats a historical document. On that I guess I'll just take your advice,<br /><br />" reject ALL history "<br /><br />Of course your phrase, and POV above makes just as much sense as a person I know who actually told me that everything on the internet is false.<br /><br />And related to this purported map you make this statement " why was it not underwater with all the ice melted ". Is it written somewhere on the map that all of the ice of Antarctica was melted? Oh, there I go again, thats a bit of history, of which All should be rejected, all of it! <br /><br />I'll be waiting for the global cooling you say is coming soon, on a day when its announced that this summer in the US was the third hottest on record. <br /><br />And the massive drought this year has been purposely caused as a money making adventure of the elites, clearly that is what you are implying. You actually believe that?<br /><br />I could go on and on but clearly it would get me no where.<br /><br />I'll be remembering you sage advice,<br /><br />" reject EVERYTHING you think you knew "<br /><br />Its like another phrase I've seen before some people cite which is just as non sensical,<br /><br />" there is nothing to know "<br /><br />I guess we all should reject EVERYTHING we thought we knew, and just give merit to what you think you know :-)Hotspringswizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215356654367335612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-19569429972549426122012-09-10T15:38:19.369-07:002012-09-10T15:38:19.369-07:00GD,
From your comment to me on the 10th.
I most ...GD,<br /><br />From your comment to me on the 10th.<br /><br />I most emphatically agree that the global warming stuff is being utilized politically. I am supposing that you are familiar with the agenda 21 issue? <br /><br />I further agree with you that with very few exceptions, what we were taught about human history is probably not true. So, those of us curious enough to pursue research into history have a problem. How to determine what is true. <br /><br />Lets take one little example out of a mountain of examples; the formation of the U.S. and it's constitution. Contrary to most of what I learned during my school years and the history books, what we have been told about our "founding fathers" is mostly B.S. from a philosophical point and from a pragmatic point according to research and scholars who write about this. They seem to present some pretty compelling evidence for this. <br /><br />The point being that there is so much information out there that is contradictory and authored by "scientists" and "Scholars" and just plain old propaganda press that a non involved person simply has to pick and chose what information they chose to believe is valid. Now, what is the basis for this decision? With very few exceptions, it is always a bias, a bias that reinforces what we already suspect is true. <br /><br />I still insist that true objective research and conclusions is so rare as to be unnoticed by the vast majority of folks living on this planet. All I can do as an individual is to keep looking and hope I actually stumble upon something that truly leads to the truth. <br /><br />I went to the web site you put up <br />http://vimeo.com/46429608#at=0<br /><br />I found that lecture obscure and literally could make no sense of it and could detect no conclusions in it. The main thrust of the lecture was an explanation of computer models and how they worked on the one issue of Antarctic ice thickness. Now I will admit that I have limited experience with computer modeling, but what experience I have had at various times indicates to me it is simply another means of lying with statistics if there is an agenda to be propagated. The bottom line for computer modeling is the insertion of statistical data into a program that has built in bias from the start, and all this to project events and trends into the future. The really hideous part of this is that they are used to formulate public polity. Personally, I have little justification for assuming the validity of those projections most of the time. <br /><br />One very big problem with computer models is that they are very seldom correct in the projections, particularly for long range projections. They seem to work a high percentage of times for very short range projections. There is a reason for this. In long range projections it is assumed a limited amount of variables which is so seldom true that it becomes ridiculous. Anyone with any knowledge of complex systems and their analysis knows that interaction of outside variables simply cannot be accounted for. This problem with complex systems is simply not acknowledged in computer models and cannot be accounted for and thus fostering a lot of suspicions about the conclusions. <br /><br />I have no real good answers for how to deal with these anomalies, I truly wish I did. <br /><br />murphnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-1258068051832083702012-09-10T13:23:30.093-07:002012-09-10T13:23:30.093-07:00SATS the Greenland thing made my day, too funny. R...SATS the Greenland thing made my day, too funny. Richard North did a pretty good expose on the WWF, I was going to post a link but the EUreferendum site is unavailable right now GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-68770530643148930002012-09-10T12:16:02.691-07:002012-09-10T12:16:02.691-07:00Really? Rats!
I just did copy/paste -since I am ...Really? Rats!<br /><br />I just did copy/paste -since I am a lousy at correcting my typing and there's no spell-chcker thingy.<br /><br />If this<br />http://www.madsencycles.com/bikes/<br /><br />doesn't work, just Google Madsen bikes and you'll find it. I haul a ton of stuff with it each weekend. Ok, not a ton, but a butt-load of groceries, dirt, pots, plants and I am the main attraction at the local farmers market when I show up. The parking lot is packed each Saturday morning with gazillions of people trying to find a parking spot. Not me, man. I ride on through the masses in their cars, park it, lock it with it's own, attacked lock and load up on one watermellon, one honeydew mellon, a dozen sweet corn, big bag of nectareens, big bag of pears and another bag of asian pears. After that, I went down the street to the state controlled liquor store and bought two six packs of beer and two bottles of wine (my weekly beer suppy run). <br /><br />It rides well, even with a load and I get my exercise. I highly recommend this bike.<br /><br />-Randy <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-41381599001156000762012-09-10T11:13:53.059-07:002012-09-10T11:13:53.059-07:00SATS
GD from my previous comments on this blog yo...SATS<br /><br />GD from my previous comments on this blog you know we see global warming and climate change the same way. I also think the period from which satellite data has been available, notwithstanding what you said, is too short a sample to predict long term trends. Okay it's all we have got and you have to start somewhere but geological time is geological time and what we have is not enough to extrapolate a long term picture. Incidentally, I expect you already know this but the IPCC is supposed to comprise 2000 eminent scientists. The couldn't find 2000 scientists of any description to agree on anything so they first padded the numbers with researchers and when they ran out of these they invited secretaries to take part. <br /><br />I was walking through town (Antwerp) the other day and one of these enthusiastic youths tried to sign me up for the WWF. I mean saving the animals is a petty noble thing to do, huh. I asked him if he knew that the WWF was a front organisation for the “1001 Club”. “What's that” came the reply. I said “It will have more impact if you look it up yourself however the only thing I will tell you is that it is not very nice and works against the principles of the WWF”. And with that I cleared off leaving him looking nonplussed. <br /><br />For those who have not come across it, it is here:<br /><br />https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations/1001_Club.htm<br /><br />On the amusing topic of why an ice covered near continent should be called Greenland, the Vikings first discovered a large snow covered island in the middle of the North Atlantic and decided to call it Iceland. They then went back to Denmark and tried to find enough people to colonize it but didn't get many takers, so the next time they went a but further and found an even bigger island covered with ice and being quick learners, they decided to call it Greenland. <br /><br />Randy, your link didn't work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-61968758091350185662012-09-10T10:49:39.168-07:002012-09-10T10:49:39.168-07:00with it
Bexarwith it<br />BexarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-87228216430239852652012-09-10T10:48:33.844-07:002012-09-10T10:48:33.844-07:00Randy,
I have one of these and do the grocery/othe...Randy,<br />I have one of these and do the grocery/other shops deity it. Pulls very nice too.<br /><br />Can't haul enough wood chips, fire wood etc., though.<br /><br />http://www.bikerev.com/<br /><br />BexarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-70972370015591816082012-09-10T10:36:09.786-07:002012-09-10T10:36:09.786-07:00this "global warming" doesn't seem t...this "global warming" doesn't seem to be global ;¬) see<br /><br />Mass Balance of the Antarctic Ice Sheet 1992-2008 from ERS and ICESat: Gains exceed losses<br />- Presented by Jay Zwally, NASA Goddard, USA<br /><br />http://vimeo.com/46429608#at=0<br /><br />The Arctic seems to have a c.10yr lag response, since the PDO went -ive in 06 it'll probably continue the current trend until around 2016. In the meantime the jetstream will control NH weather, kinked by mechanisms controlled by the Sun et al expect lots more blocking action, periods of extreme cold harsh winter interspersed by milder than usual periods. Gd<br /><br />GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-53905194857597705502012-09-10T07:35:04.392-07:002012-09-10T07:35:04.392-07:00Ahhh, but there are a lot of things you can haul o...Ahhh, but there are a lot of things you can haul one of these bikes, Bexar -<br /><br />http://www.madsencycles.com/<br /><br />I have one of these in yellow (easier to see) that I use each weekends to haul things/grocery shop and my wife uses it during the week to haul all of her art stuff (paintings, supplies, etc.).<br /><br />It's great!<br /><br />-Randy<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-74706143802416993992012-09-10T02:14:07.319-07:002012-09-10T02:14:07.319-07:00Murph: Global warming is a non issue IMO (except f...Murph: Global warming is a non issue IMO (except for political control), it is cyclical, now the PDO & NAO, and soon the AO (ocean cycles) have turned -ive because they are driven by Sun cycles (which are driven by planetary/universe position) , the issue will soon be global cooling, shrinking of the growing zones. Co2 has almost no effect after 200ppm. Climate change is an issue, yes, but not for the reasons pro-ported by the globalists, there is zero solution, there is nothing “man” can do about it. It is a handy diversion from the serious ecological damage “man” is doing/has done, something we can do something about, and in short time if there were not the diversion of “CAGW” used by globalists to further their agenda, e.g. WWF “protecting” inaccessible parts of the Amazon while selling logging rights to the accessible parts to plant palm oil. <br />Why did the global elites build their doomsteads in the tropics? Remember global cooling on the Bilderberg agenda? Coincidence? <br /><br />HSW: you talk of “many decades” and use “record extent” language derived from satellite data, which only started in 1979, data controlled and manipulated by the globalists (it's not the same satellite from 1979, not the same sensors, not the same algorithms etc. it has the potential to be manipulated) You also attack the venue and blog owner, who did the newspaper search is rather irrelevant IMO. Here's a thought, Viking agriculture on Greenland (funny name for an iced up continent eh) maybe they were all simply deniers ;¬) <br /><br />There is a map from thousands of yrs ago on animal skin (Piri Reis Map) notes on the map say it was collated from Sumerian maps in the Imperial Library of Constantinople. It shows, accurately, the coasts of Antarctica, something they could only check with satellite telemetry in modern times. History is written by the victors, our human history is BS, as is current history in the making. Who mapped Antarctica over 6k yrs ago, and why was it not underwater with all the ice melted? Why did plants evolve to make best use of Co2 at around 1500ppm? What was the real Co2 level before “they” told us what it was? <br /><br />Keep searching for the truth and it will hit you upside the head, but first you must reject ALL history, including current history in the making, and I do mean reject EVERYTHING you think you knew. <br /><br />RP: bang on, there is more profit in food shortage than abundance, period. <br /><br />Murph 2: you said “Let's look at a specific. Violent storms, hurricanes etc, have been increasing in in the Gulf region” <a href="http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/global_running_ace.jpg" rel="nofollow">have you looked at the global evidence?</a> My research tells me these things have been at a historic low, because they are caused by the temp differential between the tropics and poles, they will increase for sure, but that's because of global cooling! <br /><br />Historically, warm is good for human living conditions, cold is not so good IMO. <br /><br />I suspect, if we were all sat round a real campfire unobstructed by the limitations imposed by this virtual warmth, we would agree on much more than we disagree, though it would be a very long night, maybe one day ;¬)GdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-900671458188709604.post-29334847150407390012012-09-09T23:36:35.838-07:002012-09-09T23:36:35.838-07:00Murph, I agree with the various points you made in...Murph, I agree with the various points you made in your <br />September 9, 2012 9:20 AM, post. One thing to note, all people are not equal for sure when it comes to contributions to societies problems. Say for example the poor around the world who live on 1-2 dollars a day sure don't contribute the way most in the US ( or other afluent countries ) do with their very comfy lifestyles of abundance. <br /><br />And then theres the truth that those contributing less are getting in general the lion's share of the pain and troubles as the mass consumers of all types reap the benifits even as they themselves are the biggest creators of the problems.<br /><br />As far as what people should do about climate change and its repercussions, there are so many variables and particular personal circumstances, combined with the fact the no one knows beyond assumptions just how the weather will alter in given areas because of the unpredictablility factors of climate, that offering people accurate advice about where they should go is something that I think will be most often fraught with consistent errors.<br /><br />Freeacre, Survival Acres has a link for that video about the Weather girl going rogue, and I found it amusing of course :-) Hotspringswizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215356654367335612noreply@blogger.com