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This morning I got in my email such a stupid piece of shit I couldn’t believe it. I’m in a bit of a rage over it. This complete fabrication of reality comes from rather obviously a rabid, crazy, stupid, extremist, right wing influence peddling group ;
AmeriPAC info@conservativeactionalertsupdates.com and is reprinted below.
Democrats Wreck Bull Market
Biden Refuses To Answer Wealth Redistribution-Marxist Questions
"When I think about things when the lights are out and I'm tossing and turning in bed, it's how do we make sure we fulfill the commitments to the American people that we've made throughout this campaign." – President Elec. Barrack Obama
At the end of 2002, shareholder wealth stood at $10.075 trillion. After cutting the capital gains tax from 20% to 15% and the dividends tax from 38.1% to 15%, shareholder wealth grew all the way to a peak of $17.294 trillion in 2007. Estimates now put shareholder wealth at about $12 trillion.
OK, assuming the figures are correct, all of the attributes for the fall of this market was in place before the Dems took control of the congress. And, they voted with the white house demands almost completely. Plus, Obama is not yet president. He can’t control anything yet.
So, when the Republican Congress cut investor tax rates, $7 trillion of shareholder wealth was created—a gain of 70 percent. When Pelosi, Reid, and Obama took over, $5 trillion of shareholder wealth was lost—a decline of 30%.
It is questionable that the tax cut created the $7 trillion in wealth for shareholders. What did happen is that due to the 25-40 asset multiplier factor in banking, debt was increased by $7 trillion which through creative accounting was shown as assets.
If you want your 401(k) or other retirement plans to grow, your best bet is a Republican Congress that will cut nest egg tax rates and keep them low. When Democrats are in charge, markets price in expected tax increases.
What are they talking about? The cuts in retirement vehicles has taken place by robbing these vehicles to gain liquidity. Has nothing to do with the Dems other than they voted for all the Bush policies. Maybe indeed the dems will raise taxes. Now let’s see, just who will that effect? Sure not the lower 50% in incomes. Ahhh, those poor people with the $200+ K income per year. I’m sure they will become destitute.
Obama needs to redistribute YOUR wealth to honor his Campaign Promises
Just whose wealth is going to get redistributed? It sure as hell isn’t mine and the large majority of the lower 50% of the economic part of the population.
The public outcry of real Americans like you and Joe the Plumber is finally getting some light shed on Mr. Obama's wealth redistribution agenda supported by Socialist Democrats in Congress. The corrupt media can't hide it any longer. The plan is to bring an end to the
Socialist Democrats? Bull shit. You might want to call it egalitarianism but socialism, again bull shit. Hell, the biggest surge in socialism has taken place under Bush and policies and every since Reagan. Capitalize profit earnings, socialize loses, that is, the state puts the loses onto the general population. Government ownership in private corporations? That is called Socialism and what the current administration is doing with a vengeance.
They want total control of what you see, hear, think, and do. They will stop at nothing. NOW, they are aiming at your 401k and other retirement plans and they are going for the kill.
And just what in hell has the Repugs been doing? Control of the media is their expertise a-la Karl Rove.
Democrats Target Your 401k Retirement Plan with Taxes
Yes that's right, Liberals in government want to seize these assets for their own. Can you hear them laughing. Just look at what James Pethokoukis, the money and politics blogger for U.S. News & World Report has said:
In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee's Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since "the savings rate isn't going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that's not generating what we now say it should."
And just what has the Repugs suggested for Social Security. Privatization, because the government has spent all of social security on wars and pork and substituted IOU’s. So let’s give control of your taxes in SS to the stock market. And take a look at what those investment vehicles for retirement consist of primarily. Notice how the majority is invested in a workers company stock, and the bubble economy that took a nose dive. Those accounts have been only numbers on a spread sheet for a long time and do not represent real wealth at all. Remember the Enron and World Com bubbles and the people burned by having company stock in their 401K’s? So indeed lets just all jump into the stock market in one form or another and see how much money is left over for retirement. All of the figures I have seen concerning the long term stock market gains for individual investors has been below inflation rate. Yes, some do gain handsomely. Most lose their asses. But talk to a few people that were depending on those investments for retirement. If you retired in a down market, you are screwed.
The Democratic plan is to SIEZE your 401k and take $80 billion that is currently the property of American citizens. Effectively, this plan will end all of the incentives that the majority of Americans not only enjoy but rely on. I am sure you or someone you know takes advantage of their employer matching their 401k contribution. Under the iron fist of the Democratic empire your employer would no longer receive a tax benefit for matching your contribution, so they won't do it. And you will lose half of your retirement contributions. And don't forget, that you will lose your tax breaks from the 401k plan also, so you'd be paying the government to let you retire. Sounds like fun?
Hell, we already pay the government to retire. I sure had to pay taxes on my 401K and that was during Bushes administration. And, notice that they don’t mention vestment. At the rate jobs are moved around, it’s amazing that anyone get 100% vestment. In today’s economy, the $80 billion they mention is a drop in the bucket compared to the $50 trillion in debt we have. Corporations have been cutting employee benefits as fast as they can, increases the bottom line you know. And notice that as unemployment figures have gone up in the last 30 years or so, stocks go up. Hey, anything here that looks funny to you? One thing for sure, the right wing does not advocate for full employment. In fact, back in the day of Greenspan, he publicly said that a rate of 4 ½% unemployment was necessary for a healthy economy. Now why would that be?
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Mr. Obama has always been against an individuals' right to control and spend their own savings. He has a narrow, selfish and myopic view of the world we live in and the idea that he can tax whatever he wants to whenever he wants to.
And of course narrow, selfish and myopic views of the world is a characteristic only of the Dems. Sheeesh!
In 1981, President Reagan, a GOP Senate, and a working majority in the House pushed through cuts in the capital gains, dividends, and corporate tax rates. Shareholder wealth grew from $1.3 trillion at the beginning of 1981 to $3.4 trillion at the end of 1989.
And again, who controlled most of the shareholder wealth, just once more let me know.
In 1994, Republicans took over both Houses of Congress. Government spending restraint and a capital gains tax cut followed. Shareholder wealth grew from $5.7 trillion at the end of 1994 to $15.4 trillion at the end of 2000.
Spending restraint? What the hell are they talking about? They evidently took out the
In 2001, Democrats took the Senate when Jim Jeffords switched parties. Shareholder wealth fell from $15.4 trillion at the end of 2000 to $10 trillion at the end of 2002—a nosedive of 50%.
Now just how in hell did a majority of one in the Senate accomplish that? Please tell me how. Especially when both the house and senate were rubber stamping everything the white house asked for with almost no opposition. And of course 9-11 had absolutely nothing to do with this. No explanation of why this is a world wide problem either, not just
In the 2002 elections, Republicans won back control of the Senate. In 2003, the capital gains tax was cut from 20% to 15%, and the dividends tax was cut from 38.1% to 15%. In 2004, they expanded their majorities in the House and Senate. Shareholder wealth grew from $10 trillion at the end of 2002 to $17 trillion at the end of 2006.
Again, just who was it that controlled all this paper wealth? I think this was called an economic bubble for which we are paying today.
In the 2006 elections, Democrats took control of both sides of Capitol Hill. Shareholder wealth fell from $17 trillion to about $12 trillion today. Markets have priced in an anticipated capital gains and dividends tax hike.
Oh really? Anticipation indeed. Notice that the tax hike did not take place and the market is still in free fall. I also notice that nothing was said about during the 50’s when corporate taxes were much higher and the stock market was going up. Of course, back then stocks were mostly valued in real wealth of the company, not shyster accounting schemes as is today. And, still no explanation of why this economic slide down is world wide, not just in
The lesson is clear—Republican majorities in Congress create new tax cuts on shareholder wealth, and prevent tax hikes on shareholder wealth. This creates an environment where shareholder wealth goes up over time. Democrat majorities threaten shareholder wealth, and markets price in anticipated tax hikes.
The Obama-Biden campaign refused to answer real questions about the economy, tax increases and where the money would come to spend. They are unqualified and worried they cannot deliver on economic promises with their views and policies, and avoiding the real truth.
The media will continue to follow Obama the prince of spin down the economic road of ruin. We need you to see and hear the truth about an Obama economy. We need your help to keep the Democrats out of your 401K's and other assets and mindlessly print, collect and spend your tax dollars.
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Those of you who have been coming to this site for any length of time know that I am radically opposed to both the corporatist parties; I couldn’t be paid to support either one. Both are headed up by a plethora of liars, thieves and power hungry assholes. I do hope when you all read this article you are able to pick out the utter bull shit it contains. To blame the Dems for the Bear market is one of the most absurd things I have seen so far. Freeacre and I had commented to each other just after the election that now the blame game begins and the Repugs are going to heap on the Dems great finger pointing and name calling and blame everything negative on them. They flat out are NOT going to take ANY responsibility for their part of the mess. The fact that I know with absolute certainty that this kind of propaganda is going to sit very well with a large amount of the population, can only reinforce the view that the general population is made up of idiots. I’d sure like to see a plan to keep that kind of idiocy completely away from the voting booths. I sure would be surprised to see that the general population rejected this bull shit.
Evidently the authors of this bit of trash also feel it is just dandy for the economy to completely focus the country’s wealth into the least hands that it can. The article doesn’t bother to point out just who had all of this wealth that they are so proud of, nor how it was generated, nor in what form it was (all paper assets), nor that the Dems gave Bush everything that he wanted during the downslide. They also haven’t explained the Obama appointments to various posts that are the old guard that the Repugs have used for years.
I expect to see the right wing ideologs putting more and more of this kind of crap out into the population. I would even suppose that there are those putting it out that actually believe it. Talk about creating division in the population. Yeh right, lets all pull together now, cross ideological lines and sing Kum-By-Ah, in 5 part harmony of course.
By the way, inserting that article seemed to completely tear up the formatting of this post. Please excuse as all my efforts to straighten it out fell short.
32 comments:
"I expect to see the right wing ideologs putting more and more of this kind of crap out into the population."
your right of course. and all kinds of other crap too. we got this phone message sometime thursday...
customer 404 798 1463 has sent you a text to land line message SWD....
I HEAR THE PRESIDENTIAL ROSE GARDEN HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A WATERMELON PATCH.
... thankyou for using text to land line.
the intro and ending were computer generated. the message was a recording of a warm body with a female voice.
the number is "unavailable" per free reverse directory. but "available" on the pay sites.
"... sing Kum-By-Ah, in 5 part harmony of course."
i called the number. are you ready for this? ... 2 - 3 - 4 ....
everybody wanna go-da heaven.
(inaudible) there is no doubt.
everybody wanna go-da heaven.....
which then fades and you can leave a number or a nice friendly note! not exactly kum-by-ah. done to a country tune. much more appropriate to the ideology. on election day we got get-out-and-vote robo calls from hank williams jr and gretchen williams. and then about an hour before the polls closed a message from palin herself. it appeared to have been done that day and had a tone of urgency in the voice.
obama would never have been elected by the usual voting electorate. only by the result of a massive 2 year registration drive focused on the minority and young voters. and even that would probably not been enough without the october financial "surprise" swaying many to vote against mcpalin.... p
P, I for one thank it would be a good thing to turn the White House lawn into a watermelon patch. ;-)
It's fun to watch the right-wing nutjobs and the white supremacists squirming and yelling for a change. Of course, what's not fun at all is that a lot of them are going to decide to 'do something' about the new president. I hope the Secret Service is on the ball.
I'm going to give Obama a chance but I doubt we shall see the kind of massive turn around so many dems are expecting. They are apparently unaware that their party is also bought and paid for by the coprorations.
And hey, the repubs believe in wealth redistribution too -from the bottom up!
I'm starting another job today. (I say another because I'm keeping the old very part time one.) It's temp but they are paying me over twice the ordinary going rate around here, so I'm happy with it. I'll be able to save some money. Of course, I slept so badly last night that I am in serious need of coffee this morning and I have none in the house. Wish me luck!
Murph;
You hit the nail on the head there at the end, talking about who Obama is looking at for his cabinet and advisors.
Larry Summers, Jon Corzine and Timothy Geithner are all on the short list for Treasury secretary, and all sound like equally bad choices. Corzine was CEO of Goldman Sachs and Summers was head of Treasury during the initial collapse and plunder of the Soviet Union in the early nineties.
Then, of course, we have Zbig Brother Brzezinsky and Colin Powell to worry about. What real change can we expect, or even hope for?
The International Forecaster ran an article Nov. 5 entitled "We Will Watch Obama Like A Hawk" that analyzes the latest machinations between Washington and Wall St., (those the press will tell us about,) and, coupled with the information offered by Chris Martenson in The Crash Course, the picture looks pretty grim.
http://www.the internationalforecaster.com
http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse
The people who represented real change were marginalized early on in the campaign. We have only ourselves to blame for allowing the mass media to manipulate us so.
Now, again, we have who the Powers That Be wanted. The question that niggles in the deep recesses of my small and suspicious brain is, what agenda have the elites chosen for this new Messiah?
My guess is that Obama is soon to learn the meaning of that old yiddish phrase Cohen utters to Aaron Russo at the termination of the interview, in "America: Freedom To Fascism". Russo explains to the audience, for those who don't understand the language, the ex-IRS commissioner has just said to Aaron, "nothing will help you."
-rockpicker
We are in for some seriously twisted shit. But, it will be better to have a voice of calm and reason in the background, rather than the moronic ramblings of Bush...
Localize, localize, localize. We are on our own, as the world spins out of control and things continue to deteriorate. Many indications of military escalation between now and Jan. 20. Duck and cover.
These Radical Right-Wing types crack me up! NOBODY bought their "The Sky is Falling!!!" bullshit!
If I had a nickle for every Rethuglican Robo-Call I got here in Ex-Red State North Carolina, I would have a whole shitload of nickles!
They ran the gambit from "Obama is a Muslim" Obama is a Socialist" "Obama is a Terrorist" "Obama is a Communist" "Obama is an Arab" "Obama is a radical Christian who follows and Anti-American Minister named Wright", and my personal favorite: "Obama is a Racist, Islamic, Radical, Fascist, Communist Nazi!"
A Racist, Islamic, Radical, Fascist, Communist Nazi! They said it right over my fucking telephone! THEY'RE NOT EVEN INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THOSE POSITIONS ASCRIBED ABOVE ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!!!!!
The poor deluded ass wipes see their whole wobbly house of cards in the path of a tornado, and they're praying for glue! The only chance is to find enough people as misguided, and misinformed as they are, and try to get some kind of redneck movement going.
Fortunately for us, the days of winding up the populace with some kind of agenda driven propaganda is, for the most part, over.
Except for a few really radical Right Wingers, all the lies they spread about Obama back-fired nicely on them, as North Carolina going "blue" proves!
I'm not saying Obama is going to save the world, but maybe he'll make the collapse a little less painful.
At this point, that's about the best anyone can expect!
Let the name calling begin.
All that aside, I can not help but wonder how many of these ---
http://www.americanguardian.us/images/brinks_truck.jpg
are going to be required to move the Bush gang out of the Whitehouse.
I can imagine a line of them approching a mile long.
Of course Cheney will probably need to use FEMA's prison railroad cars to carry his load.
Guys, I had a flat tire today and I don't think it was an accident. I was at the training for this job (which isn't going to work out, but that's a long story) and I'm parked in the middle of a solid row of McCain-Palin bumper stickers with my Obama sticker and I get a few nasty looks, going in and coming out. I was one of the last to leave, and when I did I got a couple of blocks before I realized one of my tires was flat. There was a nail, inserted perfectly into the tire. It could have been a coincidence. It probably was. But in this day and age, you have to wonder.
Something really wonderful happened shortly thereafter, but I'm going to write that up on my blog later when I'm feeling better.
I don't know, guys and gals, but I'm not too thrilled over the dudes who are getting selected for Obama's admin. That Emanuel hommie is kinda scarey from what I've read and Larry Summers for Treasury Sec has a long rap sheet of deregulation and playing golf with Phil Graham. Others being considered for posts look like a remake of the Clinton movie.
I'm wondering if it was too early to take off the "I'm feeling much better since I gave up all hope" bumper sticker.
Dude
Dude;
Yes, trashing the bumbersticker was a rash and premature act of confidence.
Here's a little something to help collect your bearings
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1616294/sons_of_liberty_warning_to_the_nwo/
-rp
RP,
Wonder if that video is a tongue in cheek thing or for serious.
I just got this e-mail from a friend. So...anybody wondering why the job market is a tad tight?
I just received this from a friend. I also heard consumer
talk show 'guru' Clark Howard say the other day that many of these chain stores will be completely out of business by February, the result of our declining economy and the recent Wall Street mess. He suggested that giving/receiving holiday gift cards from most chain stores will be very risky this year.
Subject: Nationwide Store Closing
Be very wary of gift certificates this Christmas. Just in case you already have them, use those Gift Certificates immediately or you may lose them! Levitz, and Bombay have
already shut down.
STORE CLOSINGS AND LAYOFFS
Ann Taylor closing 117 stores nationwide. A company spokeswoman said the company hasn't revealed which stores will be shuttered. It will let the stores that will close this fiscal year know over the next month
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Eddie Bauer to close more stores. Eddie Bauer has already closed 27
shops in the first quarter and plans to close up to two more outlet stores by the end of the year.
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Cache closing stores. Women's retailer Cache announced that it is
closing 20 to 23 stores this year.
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> Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug, Catherines closing 150 stores nationwide. The owner of retailers Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug, Catherine's Plus Sizes will close about 150 under performing stores this year. The company hasn't provided a list of specific store
closures and can't say when it will offer that info, spokeswoman Brooke Perry said today.
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> Talbots, J. Jill closing stores. About a month ago, Talbot's announced that it will be shuttering all 78 of its kids and
> men's stores. Now the company says it will close another 22 under performing stores.. The 22 stores will be a mix of Talbot's women's and J. Jill , another chain it owns. The closures will occur this fiscal year, according to a company press release.
Gap Inc. closing 85 stores. In addition to its namesake chain, Gap also owns Old Navy and Banana Republic . The company said the closures - all planned for fiscal 2008 - will be weighted toward the
Gap brand.
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Foot Locker to close 140 stores. In the company press release and
during its conference call with analysts today, it did not specify where the future store closures - all planned in fiscal 2008 - will be. The company could not be immediately reached for comment
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Wickes is going out of business. Wickes Furniture is going
out of business and closing all of its stores, Wickes, a 37-year-old retailer that targets middle-income customers, filed for bankruptcy
protection last month.
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Zales, Piercing Pagoda closing stores. The owner of Zales and
Piercing Pagoda previously said it plans to close 82 stores by July 31. Today, it announced that it is closing another 23 under performing
stores. The company said it's not providing a list of specific store
closures. Of the 105 locations planned for closure, 50 are kiosks and 55 are stores.
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Disney Store, exact number of stores acquired will depend on negotiations with landlords. Those
subsidiaries of Children's Place filed for bankruptcy protection in late March.
Home Depot, Nearly 7+ months after its chief executive said there were no plans to cut the number of its core retail stores, The
> Home Depot Inc. announced Thursday that it is shuttering 15 of them amid a slumping U.S. economy and housing market. The move will affect 1,300 employees. It is the first time the world's largest home improvement store chain has ever closed a flagship store for performance reasons.Its shares rose almost 5 percent. The Atlanta-based company said the
under performing U.S. stores being closed represents less than 1 percent of its existing stores. They will be shuttered within the next two months.
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> CompUSA (CLOSED) clarifies details on store closings. Any
extended warranties purchased for products through CompUSA will be
honored by a third-party provider, Assurant Solutions. Gift cards, rain checks, and rebates purchased prior to December 12 can be redeemed at any time during the final sale. For those who have a gadget currently in for service with CompUSA, the repair will be completed and the gadget will
be returned to owners.
> Circuit City - Up to 150 stores to be closed nationwide.
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Macy's - 9 stores, so far
Movie Gallery - 160 stores as part of reorganization plan to exit
bankruptcy. The video rental company plans to close 400 of
3,500 Movie Gallery and Hollywood Video stores in addition to the 520
locations the video rental chain closed last fall.
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> Pep Boys - 33 stores
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Sprint Nextel - 125 retail locations. New Sprint Nextel CEO Dan Hesse appears to have inherited a company bleeding subscribers by
the thousands, and will now officially be dropping the ax on
4,000 employees and 125 retail locations. Amid the loss of 639,000 postpaid customers in the fourth quarter, Sprint will be cutting a total of 6.7% of its work
force (following the 5,000 layoffs last year) and 8% of company-owned
brick-and-mortar stores, while remaining mute on other rumors that it will consolidate its headquarters in Kansas . Sprint Nextel shares are down $2.89, or nearly 25%, at the time of this writing.
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> J. C. Penney, Lowe's and Office Depot have all announced that they scaling back."
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Ethan Allen Interiors: The company announced plans to close 12 of 300+ stores in an effort to cut costs.
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Wilsons the Leather Experts - 158 stores Pacific Sunwear will close its 154 Demo stores after a
review of strategic alternatives for the urban-apparel brand. Seventy-four under performing Demo stores closed last May.
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Sharper Image: The company recently filed for bankruptcy protection and
announced that 90 of its 184 stores are closing. The retailer will still operate 94 stores to pay off debts, but 90 of these stores
have performed poorly and also may close..
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KB Toys posted a list of 356 stores that it is closing around the United States as part of its bankruptcy reorganization. To see the list of store closings, go to the KB Toys Information web site, and click onPress Information
Dillard's to Close More Stores. Dillard's Inc.said it will continue to focus on closing under performing stores, reducing expenses and improving its merchandise in 2008. At the company's annual shareholder meeting, CEO William Dillard II said the company will close another six under performing stores this year.
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> NOTE: It appears that American Express is underwriting many of the malls'own gift certificates -- you purchase at any mall's main office and then use them just as you would a credit card, at any the stores in that mall. Additionally,
> they will replace, if misplaced, as long as you have recorded the certificate
number safely somewhere else..."
I'm
dreaming
of a white
Christmas...
-rp
nothing to do with the above post but still could be of interest to the TCC..
11 part youtube..
John Michael Greer speaks on Coast to Coast AM..
his voice is totally different than I would've thought.
enjoy:
http://jacquesdebeaufort.blogspot.com/2008/11/john-michael-greer-on-c2c-end-of.html
holy crap freeacre !
just read your comment/meme above.
wow.
the sculpting hand of death makes fast work of our profligate fantasies.
addendum to that: Curcuit City now bankrupt and DHL closes all American operations.
Wow, RP, that link is like "Fight Club"! Wonder how long they'll let that one be up. Damn!
Jacque,
Yeah, Greer doesn't sound at all like I imagined, either. Strange.
Wait until everybody just exchanges cookies or homemade crafts for Christmas... we can begin to convert the strip malls into homeless shelters...and the suits will be wandering around like zombies. The dumbass elites never learn. They all get so greedy that they over extend the empire, bleed out the workers to the point that they have nothing to lose, and it all falls down. You'd think by now they'd get a clue.
Would someone please describe what is in the video rp posted? I can't open it at home and from the sounds of it, it isn't work friendly. ;-)
FA, I think it is even worse than that. Just the mass layoffs make the reports. Most companies in the U.S. are still small businesses and they bleed employees one or two at a time but multiplied by thousands. The economy is crashing and burning. Things are getting tight.
This temp job I started yesterday isn't going to work out. I'll finish the training because they're paying me well, but the job itself won't work. Why? Because instead of working around here, now they want me to drive 100 miles. Each way. Every day. Sometimes more than 5 days a week. Hmm...hello? Even if my car would hold up (it won't) I wouldn't hold up to 11 and 12 hour days. You can't get a car loan either for a 6-month job.
Yes, ras, you are right. This is just a list of retailers, not comprehensive. But, all sorts of other places are cutting back - 40,000 from the Post Office, the auto makers, construction, banks, mortgage companies, Realtors, etc, etc. It is sad and scary. If I had young children, I don't know what I would do. Come to think of it, during the last recession, my late husband and I got a 14'motor home and lived in it for 6 mos. with our seven year old. Had to move it every 3 days per stupid rules. What a bitch. Called 80 parks in the Sacramento phone book for sites to park and none of them would accept children. Dog was ok. Guess I blocked that one out of my memory banks.
100 hundred mile commute?? Are they nuts? Maybe you could rent out a space in your yard or driveway for someone in a motor home to park. Just a thought.
Ras;
It's a video of men dressed in paramilitary outfits, standing in a darkened, brick cubby-hole of a room, like a boiler room, holding rifles, their faces shrouded in shadow.
One of them reads a statement addressed to the elites of the NWO, purportedly crafted and sent by a group calling itself Rogue Nation. The statement says these groups have educated themselves as to who the elites are, where they work and live, and that, at some point they will be taken out in revenge killings for all the shit they've perpetrated on the American nation. It mentions martial law as the ultimate trigger, but suggests the Avenging Angels might strike first. In conclusion, a message from the Sons of Liberty to the NWO states, "You're fucked!"
Beyond that, it's hard to say if it's real, or an FBI trap.
-rp
China has announced a bailout of its own. According to Webster Tarpley, "Secret Plan For IMF World Dictatorship,"
http://www.rense.com/general84/secr.htm
"The new Chinese economic measures are the opposite of the banker's bailouts imposed so far in the wealthier countries. The Chinese will spend $585 billion on infrastructure, transportation, housing, and food production, with special attention to railroads, airports, and roads..."
Elsewhere, Bloomberg has filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Fed to force it to disclose who it's loaning our money to.
-rp
and along that line of money for nothing and the checks well...
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article7224.html
for those who still have some belief that the bail out had any chance of making a difference...lol
Ely
Ely;
Thanks for the link. That was a good read.
I guess we should be out buying high-quality items we think we'll need for the long emergency, and using up our cash now, before it is completely worthless.
In our case, Oldensoul thinks we should buy another freezer. Good chance the companies that make freezers will stop production soon. Demand will force prices up, while general inflation continues to gobble our precious cash resources. So, in a month, that freezer, if it's available, may be a lot more money.
I could shoot a deer for winter meat, but I have no place to store it. What if you buy the freezer, and then the grid goes down?
Oldensoul says, "You can 'what if' yourself to death."
-rp
RP
I get that a lot myself ....What if this or what if that.... and usually the response to me is... What if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.....lol
But I like to point out now that a lot of my what if scenarios are seeing the light of day.
Even that said I still have folks who think that the worst is over and they are quick to point out the rise in the US dollar as their basis for their belief... I guess there are just some who will never have a clue.
I am thinking that maybe the gift this Christmas may be something in the line of freeze dried food stuffs, perhaps some canned goods or maybe even seeds or that timeless gift of wool socks if you can find them...
It is looking like the season will not be as jolly for a lot of folks.
Ely
FA, I might be living in an rv soon myself. If I could get hte money together to buy one, that is. I wish that job had worked out, but man -there is only so much one person can do!
RP, why not get or build a smoker and smoke the meat? It will keep well that way. That was the old way of preserving it.
Things are getting rough out there, as Ely said. About 10% of our population is on food stamps now. That number is sure to surge soon. Just wait until the price increases hit...
RP, I'd get the freezer & a smoker. Got to admit that in the interests of spending the cash that may be devalued and in the face of shortages and everything, we just went out and bought some big ticket items that we had been putting off for years. Got really good deals and will not pay any interest on them, at least. Got to admit that it is difficult to know what to do.
Ain't it a bitch to watch China doing what the U.S. should be doing. I can't believe it.
This tidbit has an interesting chart and some sound advise, in really humorous form. Support about my statement concerning long term investments.
http://johngaltfla.com/
blog2/2008/11/10/wake-up-you-maggots/
Good article murph. I laughed out loud.
I nearly told my student loan servicer where to stick their payments this morning. The only reason I didn't is that the woman I was talking to was just a poor customer service rep. I'll save that for the note I'm going to write along with my application and send it in, minus the $50 fee they want for the 3-month forebearance.
They have quite a racket. All they need is baseball bats and a bad accent to be the collegiate version of the Sopranos. Of course, if they ever stoop that low, I will feel perfectly justified in meeting them at the door with a shotgun. ;-)
if u visited the we know where u are video now is a good time to look for the w32.traffds trojan on your comp.
anonymous 11:30
I did and it isn't.
I love it!
http://www.endthefed.us/
-rockpicker
mine's okay, too
murph re w32.traffds
oh man! that is too bad. that means that it has already done its dasturdly deeds. it erases/moves itself. you apparently do not disable your network connection when you are not using your system. when your system was idle it downloaded all your personal files to nsa, installed a undetectable keystroke recorder and a small TCIP router .exe that routes all of your future online connections through their router for monitoring then moved itself to a new location. even your antivirus cant help you now. best to just know that they have your number now and not much u can do. there is a keystroke encrypter available that can make it harder on them but it will not stop them. welcome to the nwo. next time you fly somewhere you will probably be submitted to a strip search and digital analysis. lol do not worry it only hurts your dignity. unless u get one of them big guys with fat fingers. lolol i am joking of course. lol
if you do find w32.traffds on your system and remove it with av software - that is not the end of the story. u will find that your adobe flash player no longer works. u will get that download flash message on utube. when u go to adobe and try to download flash it will not download. you can remove all adobe player software and the new flash download will still not work. u have to get the flash uninstall .exe from support section run it and then download the player again. fart smellers these nwo nsa are me thinks
Folks,
In the current post, one of the things mentioned in the reprinted email was confiscation of 401K's that supposedly the socialist dems will instigate. Here is an interesting link that talks about this.
http://www.dailyreckoning.us/
blog/?p=955
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